A Day Without Traffic
This is a food site, not a political site. Yet...
Nobody that I've talked to has decried the contributions that immigrants have made to this country. America IS immigrants (are?). Ok, America be immigrants.
Especially in contributions to food and the work they do in commercial kitchens. With few exceptions, America is the place where you can find more diverse and varied foods than anywhere else in the world. We embrace immigration, as all but a few of us are from somewhere else.
But the rallies in LA and around the country hit a wrong note. The selfish sense of entitlement, and the brash notion that those who circumvented the system are now entitled to citizenship and all the benefits thereof, has created a justified backlash.
I am from the "Don't Bite The Hand That Feeds You" belief. While I understand the motivation of the people boycotting yesterday, flexing their economic muscle, it sent the wrong message. What most people got out of it was "We will cause economic damage until our demands are met." Furthermore, it was quickly turned into a semi-racial protest, as if Americans are against all immigrants, or that we just don't like brown skin. This was a patent distortion perpetrated by the March 25th Coalition.
Absolutely nobody derides (primarily Mexican) immigrants for wanting to flee to America. We all understand why. Yet, borders are important because they establish a nation's sovereignty, and control the population going in and out of that country. Countries, believe it or not, are allowed to enforce their borders. Any other country but America would be overlooked for wanting to do this, yet the rest of the world seems to look at America like we're a big amusement park, our border a turnstile, and our sovereignty a mere suggestion.
There are Indians, Koreans, Chinese, Cubans, you name it, who wait years to come into this country, and it is simply not fair to grant wholesale amnesty to people who cheated the system. Nobody is denying the contribution to the society, but nobody can ignore the burden they place on the same.
I know this is going to sound harsh, but the point of having an immigration policy is that our government is entitled to be able to pick and choose it's citizens and workers. Coming to America is a privilege, not a right granted to Planet Earth. There is a lottery system open to anyone who wants to come here, and there is a parallel system of vetting people who will substantively contribute to our economy. This country needs more qualified engineers and doctors, we simply don't need any more farmers or day laborers.
In fact, as the population of unskilled workers (their term, not mine) increases, unemployment increases. There are simply not enough jobs for the stampede of illegals, and unemployment breeds discontent and ultimately crime. This isn't a gross generalization, it is simple economics. A certain portion of the illegal population will turn to crime, gangs and other means necessary to earn a living.
Because we are America, we have policies that protect non-citizens more than any other country in the world. Yet people trash us for wanting to stem the tide of illegal immegration. The problem is simple: the system cannot handle 12 to 20 million new citizens all at one time. That's like 20 million babies being born at once. It will crush our infrastructure, education system and economy.
The real solution, and I'm speaking only of the Mexicans now, is to fight, protest, take up arms, do whatever is necessary to change the government of Mexico. It is not America's fault. It is the corrupt, unchecked, elite and government class of Mexico that has raped the people systematically for the last 100 years. Once that is achieved, and Mexico can thrive, there won't be a need to flee. Oh, and guess who enforces it's southern border with federal troops? Of course. Mexico has some of the strictest border policies with its own southern border, heaven forbid a Guatamalan wants to migrate north into Mexico.
It is a tough prospect, I know. But everyone is looking to America's compassionate policy to bail them out, meanwhile Vincente Fox is encouraging Mexicans to come to America. It eases the poverty burden on him, and he knows that much of the cash paid under the table to illegals is sent back to his country, bolstering his economy with American dollars. If we do not confront this issue now we will become Mexico, a country by Mexicans' own admission, is so antithetical to properity and happiness, they are willing to leave their families to come to a foreign land.
What did we learn in LA yesterday? If all the illegal immigrants were gone, traffic alone would improve 10 fold. A commute that usually takes me an hour took only 20 minutes yesterday. That's what people saw. Ok, back to food, and let's not forget, Cinco de Mayo is this Friday.
Nobody that I've talked to has decried the contributions that immigrants have made to this country. America IS immigrants (are?). Ok, America be immigrants.
Especially in contributions to food and the work they do in commercial kitchens. With few exceptions, America is the place where you can find more diverse and varied foods than anywhere else in the world. We embrace immigration, as all but a few of us are from somewhere else.
But the rallies in LA and around the country hit a wrong note. The selfish sense of entitlement, and the brash notion that those who circumvented the system are now entitled to citizenship and all the benefits thereof, has created a justified backlash.
I am from the "Don't Bite The Hand That Feeds You" belief. While I understand the motivation of the people boycotting yesterday, flexing their economic muscle, it sent the wrong message. What most people got out of it was "We will cause economic damage until our demands are met." Furthermore, it was quickly turned into a semi-racial protest, as if Americans are against all immigrants, or that we just don't like brown skin. This was a patent distortion perpetrated by the March 25th Coalition.
Absolutely nobody derides (primarily Mexican) immigrants for wanting to flee to America. We all understand why. Yet, borders are important because they establish a nation's sovereignty, and control the population going in and out of that country. Countries, believe it or not, are allowed to enforce their borders. Any other country but America would be overlooked for wanting to do this, yet the rest of the world seems to look at America like we're a big amusement park, our border a turnstile, and our sovereignty a mere suggestion.
There are Indians, Koreans, Chinese, Cubans, you name it, who wait years to come into this country, and it is simply not fair to grant wholesale amnesty to people who cheated the system. Nobody is denying the contribution to the society, but nobody can ignore the burden they place on the same.
I know this is going to sound harsh, but the point of having an immigration policy is that our government is entitled to be able to pick and choose it's citizens and workers. Coming to America is a privilege, not a right granted to Planet Earth. There is a lottery system open to anyone who wants to come here, and there is a parallel system of vetting people who will substantively contribute to our economy. This country needs more qualified engineers and doctors, we simply don't need any more farmers or day laborers.
In fact, as the population of unskilled workers (their term, not mine) increases, unemployment increases. There are simply not enough jobs for the stampede of illegals, and unemployment breeds discontent and ultimately crime. This isn't a gross generalization, it is simple economics. A certain portion of the illegal population will turn to crime, gangs and other means necessary to earn a living.
Because we are America, we have policies that protect non-citizens more than any other country in the world. Yet people trash us for wanting to stem the tide of illegal immegration. The problem is simple: the system cannot handle 12 to 20 million new citizens all at one time. That's like 20 million babies being born at once. It will crush our infrastructure, education system and economy.
The real solution, and I'm speaking only of the Mexicans now, is to fight, protest, take up arms, do whatever is necessary to change the government of Mexico. It is not America's fault. It is the corrupt, unchecked, elite and government class of Mexico that has raped the people systematically for the last 100 years. Once that is achieved, and Mexico can thrive, there won't be a need to flee. Oh, and guess who enforces it's southern border with federal troops? Of course. Mexico has some of the strictest border policies with its own southern border, heaven forbid a Guatamalan wants to migrate north into Mexico.
It is a tough prospect, I know. But everyone is looking to America's compassionate policy to bail them out, meanwhile Vincente Fox is encouraging Mexicans to come to America. It eases the poverty burden on him, and he knows that much of the cash paid under the table to illegals is sent back to his country, bolstering his economy with American dollars. If we do not confront this issue now we will become Mexico, a country by Mexicans' own admission, is so antithetical to properity and happiness, they are willing to leave their families to come to a foreign land.
What did we learn in LA yesterday? If all the illegal immigrants were gone, traffic alone would improve 10 fold. A commute that usually takes me an hour took only 20 minutes yesterday. That's what people saw. Ok, back to food, and let's not forget, Cinco de Mayo is this Friday.

8 Comments:
Thanks for having the guts to write about this issue, in a common sense manner.
I thoroughly agree with paragraph 7, as well as your penultimate par.
As for light traffic, it took my husband almost *two hours* in crawling traffic to get from Culver City to Studio City last night bc so many N-S roads were closed and thousands of people were walking home. So, I know that's a fairly minor inconvenience compared with this greater issue, but I just wanted to point out that traffic *was* horrendous and the city was disrupted by these protests.
I don't really know what is the most fair resolution to this issue. I am not American born, so I am extremely grateful we are able to live here, as the lifestyle, weather and opportunities are second to none. (I work for Australian magazines.)
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Max Million, at 4:19 PM
I guess a couple of the problems that I have with the protests are as follows: First, if America is where you want to be, why are you marching throughout America waving a Mexican flag. If you are proud of your heritage that is great, but you really shouldn't be waving the Mexican flag when you are demanding to bceome American citizens.
Second, there is the sense of entitlement with the protestors. In Milwaukee we have some protestors who are suing Applebee's because they were fired when they decided to walk out on their jobs just before the lunch rush to march a few weeks ago. The manager had even said "if you had told me a day in advance I would have found someone to work." If you are moving here because of the jobs, I would think that your job would be important enough that you wouldn't walk out on it.
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Jeff, at 9:40 AM
Max - I appreciate your sentiments. It's hard to look someone in the eye and say you don't want them in your country, even if they're illegal. We have a gardener, and I don't know if he's legal or not, but he's a nice guy. Fortunately (or unfortunately) it is not MY decision. It is under the jursitiction of the fed. A wholly catatonic fed.
Jeff - I did see they corrected the flag issue in the LA protest on Monday by overwhelmingly waving American flags. Good start, but they're not Americans. They are ingressors, perhaps invaders. They have benign intent, of course, but LA especially can no longer shoulder the burden of wave after wave of illegals. They are hard working, that's for damn sure, I've never seen a Latino begging for money...ever...but the problem resides with Mexico, and they need to fix that for their country's sake and their family's sake. The notion of entitlement was the most infuriating aspect of the protests. We're here, illegally, now make us citizens and give us our benefits.
How about people who live under truly opressive regimes that never have an opportunity to come here because Zimbabwe doesn't share a convenient border with us? Do the Mexicans really believe they have a more legitimate claim to come here over someone that deserves true political amnesty? I hope not.
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Steve Wasser, at 11:22 AM
While this is a complicated issue with no easy answer, I take exception to a few of your statements (and those of commenter Jeff).
First, Jeff: While there were Mexican flags for sure at the LA protests, the majority were American flags. If you check out the pictures in the LA Times, both protests were a sea of American flags.
Secondly, Steve. You don't support illegal immigrants and think we have too many, yet have a gardener and it's not your problem whether he's legal or not? Maybe if more Angelenos were willing to mow their own lawns (as most Americans do) or at least double check to ensure their gardeners were legal, the demand would be lessened. In general, it's employers who bear at least as much of the blame for the problem as the illegal immigrants.
Also, the sentiment that Mexicans should just take up arms against their government--ever heard of the Zapatistas? Yet for many extremely poor people, fighting the government takes lower precedence than feeding your family. Nevermind the fact that your statement "It's not America's fault" completely ignores the years and years of meddling the U.S. government has engaged in throughout Latin America. In the 70s and 80s, anytime a Latin American government elected a populist leader willing to stand up to corporate interests and use the country's resources to better that of its citizens, the U.S. got in the way, often going so far as to assist in the assassination of the leaders (Allende, Torrijos) or supporting extremely undemocratic military forces (El Salvador). Nevermind our hurtful economic policies, which is a whole 'nother ball of wax. So, to argue that the U.S. has no role in creating poverty in the countries, including Mexico, is revisionist history.
Finally, you claim that organizers of the march ensured it had a semi-racial tone and there was a sense of "entitlement" among protestors. Anyone who attended the rallies would have discovered that not to be the case. The families, priests, nuns, teenage boys, grandmothers, guys in business suits arriving after work, construction workers--all were friendly and welcoming to the anglos in the crowd and no one I talked to had anything but positive things to say the United States--just that they want the recognition and compensation they deserve for the work that they do. If anyone has a sense of entitlement or has used race-baiting to full effect, it's the arseholes in Congress grandstanding on the issue and the absurd Minutemen intent on "guarding" our borders.
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Erin S., at 9:44 AM
Yes, Erin, it is very complicated indeed. I'll address your points seriatum.
I think we both corrected Jeff, in the second protest the majority of flags were American flags, and I concede that illegals are entitled to protest and enjoy all the protections of the Constitution. We are not a cruel society, in fact, we are probably the most forgiving society. My issue is with entitlements, not protection under the constitution.
As for my gardener, I actually agree with you. It wasn't really my idea, but the intricacies of marital politics sometomes forces concession. I would be perfectly happy to mow my own lawn. Before you blast me for taking the Blameless Husband defense, I do indeed recognize that on a local level, people should be more diligent in knowing the status of houseworkers, and avoiding illegals if they wish to help stop the problem. My use of Javier was more to illustrate that its easier to write an article about a group of people, than if I wrote the article about my gardener, Javier. I was trying to illustrate the duality, whereas I generally support enforcing the borders, but I wouldn't want to kick my friends and co-workers out of the country, because they are familiar to me, illegal or not. I think most people would react that way.
Regardless of Americas policies in Latin America (or indeed, everywhere in the world we exercise political and economic influence, which is...everywhere), you cite our 'meddling' in every Latin American country BUT Mexico. Last time I cheked, we have not influenced or overthrown a Mexican government in the last 150 years. Quite the opposite, their policy seems to influence us.
For argument's sake, I would separate our actions pertaining to other soverign nations from Mexico. Nicaragua, El Salvador, Colombia are all separate issues not directly related to illegal immegration as I posited. I don't want this to degenerate into a "America Bullies the World," which is a wholly separate argument.
Certainly, we could endlessly argue US and corporate policy and how it influences economies, but we aren't the only economic force in the world that potentially does damage: Iran, China, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Korea, just to name a few. The major industrial countries will always be an easy target for criticism, because power holders are easy targets for criticism.
Also, we didn't conquer Mexico, you can thank the Spanish for that, we purchased it in a fair deal, sealed by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, to end the war and pay the Mexican government $15 million dollars for the land. The treaty was accepted and ratified. It is revisionist history for the Reconquistas to claim American territory as Mexican. In every war there are winners and losers, but should we unravel every peace treaty going back to the Mongolians, Huns, Barbarians, Turks, Romans, Assyrians and place the world's borders pre-Christ? Of course not.
Finally, I didn't mean to say the people in the street turned it racial, I meant the talking heads organizing the protest made it into an America Hates Latinos parade. Not entirely, but there was a distinct undercurrent that somehow they were protesting Anti-Mexican sentiments on behalf of Americans..which of course isn't true for the vast majority of people who feel like I do. Yes, racists abound, but most people just want a sensible border control policy.
Now, you've astutely articulated your points, which are very good and thought provoking, but you didn't quite address the problem:
What would you do?
What should America do?
Should we have fluid borders?
No borders?
Free medical care for all who come here?
Who pays for it?
Who pays for expansion of freeways and housing to accomodate the emigration? Who's house should we tear down to make room for the new freeways?
Which hospitals will close because 70% of their work is unpaid?
Will it be a hospital near you?
Who will educate them?
LA Unified does a great job now, how about adding another 4 million kids to it?
My question is, where does it end, and who will willingly shoulder the financial burden. I'm not saying this because I want to see immigration end, I'm saying all this because unchecked immigration will contribute to our economic collapse, it will establish shanty tin shack towns on the edge of LA, it will take work away from illegals by other illegals. And what about our identity as Americans? We all pride our cultural backgrounds, but we all agree on a common language. Except illegals, many of whom aren't educated enough to have learned English, and thus, create a country within a country. That's apartheid, and that's not what America is all about.
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Steve Wasser, at 10:29 AM
Well, I didn't know that it was a requirement that I provide a solution to the problem :). I haven't looked at in too much detail, but the McCain/Kennedy proposal seems fairly reasonable. What's not reasonable (and what's in some of the other congressional proposals) is making it a felony for American citizens to provide assistance to illegal immigrants (water in the desert, legal help, etc). It's also unreasonable to expect that we'll be able to round-up and deport all the illegal immigrants currently here and seal the border for good (just as it's unreasonable to think we're gonna kill every last insurgent in Iraq and no more will spring up in their place).
In other words, there's always gonna be a never-ending supply unless you do something about demand--both the immigrants demand for better paying jobs than they can get in their country and the U.S. demand for low-wage workers.
And yes--personally, I'd be fine with my tax dollars helping educate and provide health care for as many people as possible instead of buying a missile defense system that doesn't work or the war in Iraq or subsidies for corporations...the list goes on and on and on.
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Erin S., at 3:02 PM
My comments on the flag issue were more directed at earlier protests both here in Milwaukee and across the country. I think that they recieved a lot of negative press for waiving the Mexican flag and realized that was not helping their cause.
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Jeff, at 8:15 AM
Erin - I guess my point of contention with you is your being fine with some of your tax money going to educate (illegal) immigrants. That's a personal choice, and you should be free to donate to whatever cause supports that belief. It doesn't seem fair to saddle everyone else with that burden. I do not want my money to go to educate illegals.
Throwing money at a situation is no way to improve things. Bureaucracy, corruption and greed almost always assure money intended for education is diverted to some other agency, or wallet. Until the inbred corruption of the system changes, I am not really willing to vote for any bond measure or new tax, since it NEVER gets to the people who need it. I grew up outside of Washington D.C., which spends more money per student than any other school system in the nation. It is an abject failure.
There is no direct relationship between funding and good education. That comes from solid family values, not turning to street thinking, staying out of gangs and away from drugs, and also dedicated teachers and good counseling. Most of the kids in urban communities who are involved in gangs or have no interest in school are not stupid. Quite the opposite, they are hardened by the ghetto, and posses a unique accumulation of street intelligence. Many unforunately believe that going to school makes them a 'sell out' or 'acting white.' Until that mentality changes, you can throw all the money you want at the problem, but if kids believe education is bullshit, no teacher or persuasion will force them to learn.
Also, you've interjected something that's not entirely relevant to the debate, and I'm talking about the military strawman argument. Missile defense and Iraq funding are not mutually exclusive to education funding. It's not like the government is diverting money from children to kill terrorists...they exist side-by-side. C'mon, the government prints money :)
So, we're at an agree-to-disagree situation, which is cool. I think you make some very valid points, which are perfectly in-line with your beliefs, as I have.
The sad truth about Capitalism is that it is truly every (wo)man for themselves, and that involves a certain measure of selfishness.
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Steve Wasser, at 11:17 AM
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